Ariana Madix Went On The "Call Her Daddy" Podcast To Break Her Silence On "Scandoval," And There's So Much We Didn't Know

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Tom would use other people's credit cards to pay for Raquel, Raquel was in New York when the Toms did WWHL, and so much more.

Let's get right to it. On Wednesday, Ariana Madix was a guest on the Call Her Daddy podcast ahead of the Vanderpump Rules reunion to set the record straight on all things "Scandoval."

In case you've still been living under a rock and have no idea what I'm talking about, I'll give you the Cliff Notes: Tom and Ariana — both cast members on Vanderpump Rules — were together for nine years, but Tom was recently exposed for having a seven month-long affair with Raquel Leviss, their fellow cast member and good friend.

At this point it's hard to think there's anything we don't know about the scandal, since it seems like there's been nonstop information every day for the past three months. But, it turns out that Ariana still had a few new tidbits to share. Here are the most shocking things we learned from her interview:

1. The night she found out about the affair, Ariana took an Uber home with Tom, and at one point Ariana was on the phone with Scheana while Tom was on the phone with Raquel.

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Ariana said in the interview, "Why are you on the phone with her, who gives a sh*t about her right now?" And that Tom was "very dismissive" and "very defiant" on their ride home.

2. Once they got home, Ariana says that she and Tom entered a "screaming match," and she didn't go to sleep until 6 a.m., the next day. According to her, Tom was "mad at her the entire time."

3. Ariana said that she would have believed someone about the affair if it was told to her off-camera, but if someone had brought it to her on-camera, she would've assumed it was simply content for the show.

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4. In terms of "red flags" in relationship, Ariana said that in the beginning, Tom liked to go out a lot, but she assumed that was just the "phase of life" she and Tom were in. As time went on, Ariana left that phase and Tom seemed to stay in it.

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5. When asked by Alex if she thinks Tom is a pathological liar, Ariana responded, "Clearly, in the last seven months, he was a pathological liar."

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She continued, "It's now hard for me to look at back nine years, and if I tell myself he's a pathological liar, that means that the last nine years of my life were potentially a lie."

6. Even though Tom claimed in the finale and Ariana didn't want to do couples therapy with him, they actually DID enter couples therapy together — after Tom and Raquel had already started the affair. And it turns out, couple's therapy was supposed to be part of Tom's "eventual plan" to end their relationship.

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According to Ariana, there was even a session where it seemed like she and Tom were ending. But when their therapist asked if this was a breakup, Tom responded, "No."

7. When asked if, before everything about Tom's affair came out, she was truly happy in the relationship, Ariana responded, "I don't know."

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She explained, "I think I was a version of happy that I thought was, I don't know, what I wanted. And I also felt like the bones of the relationship were good, and I felt as through the potential for the relationship to be just incredible was there."

8. Ariana told Alex that although Tom keeps trying to say that he and Ariana were leading separate lives, if you look at their camera rolls there's proof of them going to concerts, going on dates, and putting effort into their relationship.

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9. Ariana said that after the night Raquel and Tom allegedly had sex in Tom and Ariana's home while she was out of town grieving the death of her grandmother, Tom, Raquel, and Tom Schwartz FaceTimed her the very next morning.

10. Ariana said that she a Tom were having sex "multiple times" in January while he was secretly having the affair with Raquel. And, after a romantic date on Valentine's Day, Ariana said she and Tom had a conversation about breaking up, and Tom mentioned that he thought he might be having a "mid-life crisis."

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11. Ariana said that she told Tom if they did break up, she would probably "quit the show, leave Los Angeles," and "deactivate [her] Instagram." She never told Tom that she would "kill herself" if the relationship ended, like he claims.

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"I was saying this life will be over for me, because I will go do something else," she clarified.

12. Ariana told Tom that if he thinks their relationship is over, he'd have to be the one to end it, because she was committed to making things work.

13. Apparently, before everything came out, Raquel sent a text message to Tom encouraging him to tell Ariana about their affair, but told him to leave out certain details, like them "sleeping in the house together."

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14. Ariana thinks Tom was the who started the rumors about them having an open relationship, because Raquel allegedly told a mutual friend that Tom told her they did.

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15. Ariana recently found out that Tom brought Raquel to his hometown, St. Louis, during the affair, and his family knew but was "not condoning" what was happening. He'd put her up in a hotel during these trips.

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16. Ariana fully believes that Tom and Raquel had sex in their guest room while she was also at home, asleep in the primary bedroom. She also believes that Tom went to bed with her, and then snuck off to the guest room to have sex with Raquel.

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17. After Tom filmed his scene with Raquel in the finale, Ariana claims he came back to their home and screamed at her and her friends about them "having a party," and then eventually went back to Raquel's.

18. Ariana said that she believes Tom's master plan was to end their relationship without mentioning the affair at all, and then Tom and Raquel would "start dating" publicly afterwards.

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19. Ariana recently found out that during Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz's WWHL appearance in February, Raquel was in New York City with them — she was waiting in a hotel room.

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20. Tom used other people's credit cards and Venmoed them afterwards to cover his and Raquel's tracks during the affair.

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21. And finally, after everything that's happened, Tom's family still hasn't reached out to Ariana.

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You can listen to Ariana's full Call Her Daddy interview on Spotify. And you can stream Season 10 of Vanderpump Rules on Peacock.

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