"I would either submit a tape and they would say, 'No, we don’t need to see him,' or I would get there and see them, they’d go, 'No, that’s the last time we need to see you.'"
"I would either submit a tape and they would say, 'No, we don’t need to see him,' or I would get there and see them, they’d go, 'No, that’s the last time we need to see you.'"